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Published on January 8th, 2014 | by Danny_Weasel

Paternoster Gang Return In Doctor Who Series Eight

Monday saw the first shooting day on Series 8 of Doctor Who at the Maltings in Cardiff. A familiar location for Whovians having appeared in episodes such as Gridlock, A Good Man Goes To War and The Next Doctor, it has again been dressed up as a Victorian wharf for what has officially being announced as the first episode of the series.

Returning to Doctor Who in the episode are everyone’s favourite turn of the century trio, the Paternoster Gang of Madame Vastra, Jenny and Strax.

You’ll probably have already seen new Doctor Peter Capaldi photographed with Jenna Coleman; a couple of snaps have found their way onto Twitter featuring Jenny and Strax seemingly interacting with a local bobby, among other things.

Could this imply that episode one will be a crime/mystery story similar to The Crimson Horror?

So we now know that the series will start in Victorian London in an episode written by The Moff and directed by Ben Wheatley but will this influence the new costume which we have yet to see? Could that be the ‘old’ element that has been referenced in past info?

What do you think about all this, do you think staring with the Paternoster Gang is a good move? Would you rather have had something totally different? Are you currently trying to live under a rock and avoid such things as this so you can witness the new series untainted by even the merest of pre-information? Speak your mind into the space below and give us your thoughts.

(via Doctor Who News)

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18 Responses to Paternoster Gang Return In Doctor Who Series Eight

  1. avatar rickjlundeen says:

    I refer to them as “The Victorian Three”. Easier to remember….

  2. avatar TimeChaser says:

    I had thought we probably wouldn’t have seen them again, with all this talk about a new era of the show, and the Victorian Three are definitely firmly a part of Matt’s era. But then again they’re good characters and since we don’t know what they got up to after The Name of the Doctor it’ll be nice to revisit them. I guess this is to have more familiar characters around for viewers to help get used to the new Doctor.


    • I think it’s probably going to be like UNIT. They were introduced with the Second Doctor but everybody remembers them from Pertwee’s time.

  3. avatar TonyS says:

    My first reaction was that this is not moving in a new direction. But there is a long tradition of introducing a new Doctor with something familiar to ease the transition. Pat Troughton came in on a Dalek story. The Brigadier was there when Jon Pertwee took over. And Tom Baker. Chris Eccleston had Autons in his first story…

  4. avatar Michael says:

    The New Who Era just died. The Paternoster Gang, or as I call them, “The Annoying Ones”, should not return. Strax is fine, but I cannot stand Madame Vastra and Jenny. Useless characters. Strax could really become a good character away from those two.

    • avatar David F says:

      Moffat won’t be squeamish about dropping them when they’ve run their course. He’s pretty dispassionate about things like that, so don’t worry. Remember how Robot is basically a Pertwee story, and is unrepresentative of the whole Tom Baker era?

      Right now, it makes sense, because there’s a new lead actor and elements of continuity right at the beginning of the era are good storytelling practice. He recently talked about how the completely clean slate of The Eleventh Hour was really tricky to negotiate. (Although it did turn out to be great.)

      • avatar francis cave says:

        The thing to remember though is that Robot was the last story to be produced by Barry Letts and script edited by Terrance Dicks, effectively the joint showrunners at that time, so inevitably it had more of a Pertwee feel than a Baker one.

        • avatar David F says:

          Yes, but Hinchcliffe and Holmes continued to drip UNIT into the show right up to The Android Invasion, by which point it was clear the new Doctor was established and the Pertwee hangovers could be completely jettisoned.

  5. avatar rickjlundeen says:

    Also keep in mind that this is the Moffat era and Moffat characters will be there throughout, much like Rose, Mickey and Captain Jack were from the Davies era and spent a lot of time with both Eccleston and Tennant. When Moffat does leave, The Victorian Three, River and Clara will all probably be gone.

    Although I suppose that at some point in the future, the Moff may return to write an ep and bring River back but he might be burned out on DW like Davies and simply stay a fan afterward.

  6. avatar DonnaM says:

    I don’t mind them being around for an episode or so – a degree of continuity while the new Doctor establishes himself is, as others have said, hardly anything new. And it’ll be nice to have a first episode that’s not set in 21st century Britain. However…

    One episode would be quite enough for me, then pack them off to a spinoff somewhere if we must. The comdey Sontaran just doesn’t work for me.

    On the other hand, if Moff wants to bring Kate Stewart and UNIT back intermittently, I’d be delighted!

    • avatar Mugen Pharoah says:

      Well UNIT and Kate Stewart have to come back because, if you remember, in The Day of the Doctor, there was a photo from Clara’s first visit to UNIT HQ in the vault ( which hadn’t yet happened from Clara’s perspective) so I hope that gets followed up……

      • avatar Spider-pope says:

        It doesn’t need to be followed up on, it was explained in the episode. Everyone who goes to the Vault has their memory wiped afterwards. Clara has already had her first visit, she just doesn’t remember it.

        • avatar TonyS says:

          Maybe, but lets leave open a reason to revisit Kate Stewart and UNIT :)

  7. avatar neu 75 says:

    I’d have preferred a match up with Craig but you can’t have everything I suppose…

  8. avatar Christine says:

    I quite like it: madame Vastra trying to ease Clara into a new role as a companion, as the warm, affectionate relationship she had with the 11th will be gone. Who better to help with this than our favourite silurian? And in the mean time they can solve some nice monstrous mystery. Time for Strax to throw his grenades again?

  9. avatar dr jon says:

    Its a good idea to keep the continuities going,it has been done in the old series as it has been done with the new series. The trans fair between dr’s and companions are a good bridge for the average viewer. And keeps everything neat,they may never be needed or seen again after that.

  10. avatar drewboynton says:

    I love the Paternosters. Can’t help it. Strax is hilarious and Jenny and Vastra kick butt. I wouldn’t mind the Doctor picking them up and placing them in another time period, though…

  11. avatar Adam Morgan says:

    I think it’s important to remember that “new direction” does not necessarily mean we drop all previous characters and references. New direction means that episodes and stories will be thought of differently and done differently. It is completely possible to take the show in a new, more raw direction using old characters. The Doctor is what is new. So having characters that are familiar with Matt Smith’s Doctor and being surprised at this new version will only serve to enhance the stark difference.

    As someone else said, having something familiar can ease the transition too.

    Personally, I love the Paternoster Gang. Some of my favorite characters in all of the Whoniverse (interesting, my spell check didn’t try to correct that word. haha). They are three friends he is very close to who have a lot of knowledge of the realities of the Universe, two of them being actual non-humans. They supported him during one of his darkest times unquestioningly. It makes sense for him to turn to them in times of need.

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