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Published on June 9th, 2013 | by Christian Cawley

Has Rory Kinnear Been Offered the Twelfth Doctor?

It’s a mighty hot weekend outside, even at the North East Wing of Kasterborous Towers, but this doesn’t stop the rumour and speculation concerning Matt Smith’s successor from becoming headline news. Once again it is Rory Kinnear who is linked to Doctor Who, this time a little more heavily than previous “who should be the Doctor?” round-ups.

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It all began with a claim by Starburst on Friday that the BBC was planning to confirm the name of the new Doctor following reports of an impending Sunday newspaper scoop. Just seven days after the loss of one Doctor, we’d have had the name of the next – officially, not unlike 2005.

As things unfolded, however, the BBC made quite clear that there would be no announcement.

So what did the as yet unnamed Sunday newspaper have? Perhaps Rory Kinnear’s name. If you’ve browsed or picked up a copy of The Telegraph today you may have seen “BBC asks James Bond star to be its new Doctor Who“, in which Mandrake tells readers:

“He has been offered the part and we are waiting to hear if he will accept. He is the perfect choice.”

We’re not sure if “perfect” is the right word, any more than we’re convinced this is legitimate. The timing is interesting, though. But of course until official confirmation arrives from BBC Wales, we’re still looking…

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A long-term Doctor Who fan, Christian grew up watching the show and has early memories of the Graham Williams era. His favourite stories are Inferno, The Seeds of Doom and Human Nature (although The Empty Child, Blink and Utopia all come close). When he’s not bossing around the news team, Christian is a freelance writer specialising in mobile technology and domestic computing, and enjoys classic rock, cooking and spending time in the countryside with his wife and young children. You can find him on Twitter, Facebook and Google+.



46 Responses to Has Rory Kinnear Been Offered the Twelfth Doctor?

  1. avatar krumstets says:

    One of the interesting things to come out of all this speculation is the quality of the actors being tipped or being talked about.

    In terms of the media’s perception of the show ( And of course the public’s .. ) it is a part to be taken seriously.

    With the usual wild cards ( female Doctor etc ) the hot favourites are all actors I could personally see in the role.

    The ultimate proof that things had changed though came when John Hurt agreed to be in the programme.

    And especially in this anniversary year a reminder of how far Dr Who has travelled over the years .


  2. How does Hurt agreeing to be in Doctor Who signal a change? Highly regarded actors have been appearing in Doctor Who throughout its history, classic and new.

    • avatar krumstets says:

      Without question he is the most high profile actor yet to appear in the show .

  3. avatar Lewis Seymour says:

    Kinnear, if it is him, will obviously offer us a radically different Doctor from Smith (or Tennant, I would think) and this can only be a good thing – the problem with a lot of the suggestions was not that they weren’t necessarily good actors but that many of them would have been too much like Smith – a couple even looked like him! A contrast is needed, and hopefully, whoever we get, will provide one.

  4. avatar Paul Blume says:

    However, just as the possible…though not probable…casting of a woman would leave the introductory story with at least five minutes of ‘boob jokes’ (“Where did THESE come from?”, “Well, I’ve never needed a brassiere before”, etc…), the casting of Rory Kinnear, however well he’d play the role, would lead to at least that many minutes of “Where has my HAIR gone?” gags, so, no.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      Unless he wears a wig, as Hartnell did…

      Seriously, are we now going to reject good actors because they haven’t got enough hair?

  5. avatar TonyS says:

    The Moff is reported as saying they have only just started to look. The place I read this does not state WHEN he said it. I suppose it is possible that even Mr Moff might be telling the truth. My money, however, is still on the part already having been cast.

  6. avatar rickjlundeen says:

    I just naturally assumed that Smith made his intentions known to the Moff a while back and the search started *then*. But….for Smith to leave and they’re forced to find a new Doctor in one or two months? That would be ridiculous and says to me that further contract negotiations broke down and Matt split and surprised absolutely everyone. Not saying that’s what happened but it is a possibility and that’s what they’re expecting us to think. That they’ve allowed themselves a very small window of opportunity to find a 12th Doctor.

    • avatar David F says:

      The official story stacks up perfectly, and there’s no reason to think it isn’t true. I see nothing wrong with the simple explanation that they always intended to complete filming on the anniversary special before getting down to the business of finding the next Doctor. Which is what they say.

      And it wouldn’t have made sense to do it before the announcement anyway, as the chance of keeping the search secret would have been ridiculously difficult, with all the agents and actors involved. I don’t know why the official line is so hard to believe. I mean, I’m not saying it’s necessarily true, but why are people so desperate to believe it isn’t?

      The idea of a “very small window” would make no sense anyway, as it’s assumed the first episode for a new Doctor will be broadcast in the second half of next year, which means they have bucketloads of time to find someone, so long as they can spend a day filming a regeneration scene sometime before Christmas.

      • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

        It may seem they have a huge amount of time – if DW returns in August 2014 for series 8 – but in TV terms they don’t have that much. They will begin pre-production on the Xmas special next month with filming slated for September/October, and I should think the new series – which can take up to 8 months to film if not more (three weeks filming per ep, plus pre and post production) will kick in pretty much immediately after that – certainly before the new year. So why the regeneration would not need to be filmed at the same time as the special, they would certainly need a new Doctor in place for pre-production (as well as publicity) by November at the latest. It’s actually a pretty tight turnaround. Time is relative – for a fan it can look like an eternity, for those making the programme they are constantly up against the clock.

        • avatar David F says:

          True, but my point is that t’s ample for what they need to do. The time between Tennant announcing his departure and Smith’s unveiling was only a couple of months, if memory serves. My point is that they have at least the same amount of time available now in which to start searching. And although it’s possible they’ve already made decisions, there’s nothing unrealistic in the story the BBC is feeding us, and little reason to suspect anything more complicated.

          • avatar TimeChaser says:

            Ah, but Matt had been cast weeks before the actual announcement was made. THere was a good chunk of time when he knew he was going to be the Doctor and couldn’t tell anyone. So it’s reasonable the suspect that they aren’t actually searching, just saying they are to keep the story in the news and deflect attention until they’re ready to make an announecment.

  7. avatar Lewis Seymour says:

    Ladbrokes have now suspended betting on the new Doctor, so they obviously believe it to be true.

    I was reading about Ben Daniels the other day where he states he is the kind of actor who goes home and shuts the door – he leaves the role behind on set and likes his privacy. This would suggest that he wouldn’t be very keen the Doctor which by its nature removes the actors private life.

    Kinnear previously denied any interest in the role – said he never even watched the show let alone been approached to do it. Possibly his name being bandied about caused Moffat to talk to him – but in any case, even if they have offered it to him, it doesn’t mean he will accept.

    Bleeding Cool, who started the whole Ben Daniels casting rumour state openly today that Rory Kinnear is not one of the two names they understand have been approached – they don’t say who the other one is apart from from Daniels.

    I know people who work for BBC, so I could claim I know the name but won’t say! Maybe I should?

  8. avatar TimeChaser says:

    Is it really necessary to keep reporting every one of these newspaper betting stories? I’m really sick of it.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      This isn’t a “betting” story – ie “Rory Kinnear is odds on favourite for the part”. The Telegraph – quite an upmarket paper, is stating openly that he has been offered the part. Very different thing.

      • avatar TimeChaser says:

        Not really different at all. Its still a paper speculating without any evidence in support of the claim. Either way, I’m utterly sick of these kind of stories. Lets not forget Bill Nighy was announced as the Ninth Doctor by one paper, then Eccleston was officially announced. These papers carry absolutely no weight. The only time it will mean anything is when the BBC make the official announcement.

        • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

          Well, you’re going to get them, like it or not – it’s always been like this. I don’t know how old you are, but if you are old enough to remember the original series, you will know that it was the same when Tom Baker left and when Peter Davison left – except then, when papers suggested Ken Dodd might get it, you couldn’t be sure it wouldn’t happen.

          Your only solution is not to visit sites like this and not to read newspapers – because until the BBC officially announce it, this speculation and rumour and “revelations” will continue. It’s how the News Media works (and not just with DW – look at the endless rumours regarding shows like X Factor or Strictly).

          • avatar TimeChaser says:

            Fortunately (in this case) I don’t live in the UK, so I don’t have to see it in the papers every day. But what is the point of putting every story like this up on Kasterborous? We’re just feeding the fire that way. Let the papers do their thing, and we’ll be content to wait for the official announcement.


    • Every one?

      If we reported every one we wouldn’t have time for anything else…

      • avatar TimeChaser says:

        OK, so not “every one”. Sorry Christian, I’m just so tired of all the press betting. Nothing personal. :)

  9. avatar Elder Wraith says:

    As Christian pointed out, the report came from the Telegraph’s Mandrake column. That’s a gossip column. Check it out and see some of the other guff and fluff it puts out; as long as it steers clear of anything libellous or defamatory, then rigorous journalistic standards don’t apply as much as they (hopefully!) do in the Telegraph’s reporting of “real” news. None of which necessarily means that the story has no basis in truth. Of course the BBC might have been laying out some chickenfeed to try to catch a leaker.

  10. avatar Al says:

    If the Telegraph report had been accurate, the BBC would have issued a statement.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      Conversely, you could say if it isn’t true, why don’t they deny it?

      True or not, it’s spreading like the Andromeda Strain across the www at the moment…

  11. avatar castellanspandrel says:

    Also read a lot of stories that Rory Kinnear is sick of being asked about it and isn’t interested. I’d be happy if he got offered it and took it.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      Earlier he stated that he had no interest in the part – which doesn’t seem to have dampened anyone’s interest in him taking it!

  12. avatar Lewis Seymour says:

    I wonder if the reason the BBC aren’t rushing to deny this is not because it’s true but because it helps distract the media from the real Doctor (same for other “definites” like Daniels). Wouldn’t be surprised, though I pity the poor actors!

    When they do reveal it – and I still have a feeling that’ll happen at the Paris Con – it’ll probably turn out to be someone not mentioned anywhere by anyone – Toby Jones for instance, or Michael Sheen!

    (It is either of those, don’t forget you read it here first!)


    • The Twelfth Doctor is Barry Chuckle – just read it for real on Yahoo News.

  13. avatar TimeChaser says:

    I’m still quietly betting on Ben Miller. Mainly because:
    1) He’s quit Death in Paradise at an eerily convenient time
    2) He’s versatile
    3) He’s a name, but not necessarily a big name
    4) He doesn’t seem to have been mentioned much if at all in the press betting

    I’m sure though that none of us will be able to guess who it is. I don’t think anyone thought of Matt after David left and I only remember his name being mentioned at all the very day of his casting announcement, and even then it wasn’t one of the high up names.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      I like Miller and am a big fan of “Death in Paradise” but doubt he’s got the range for DW – he can certainly play grumpy, spikey characters, and do comedy – but I’m not convinced he can do anything deeper. He’s great at embarrassment though! Can’t see it happening and am not sure I would want to!

      He found the filming of DiP very arduous, driven to illness during the filming of first series, so suspect that’s more to do with his leaving the series rather than the lure of DW. It won’t be the same without him.

      • avatar TimeChaser says:

        I concede to your points. And I’ve only seen him in DiP, so I don’t know any of his other work.

  14. avatar Mugen Pharoah says:

    Rory Kinnear would be great.

  15. avatar Andrew G. Dick says:

    Then there is Starbusts’ claim that it was down to three names, with Domhnall Gleeson being tipped as the favourite. Even Wikipedia stated that he had been considered. What happened there?

    I’m sure they have already cast though, that seems to be the general view on Gallifrey Base.

    • avatar TimeChaser says:

      Just had a look at those names. If its Gleeson, at least the Doctor would finally be ginger. :P

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      What I found odd about their claim was that the Doctor had been cast and would be announced – and then they say there are three names in the running. You can’t have it both ways…

      • avatar Andrew G. Dick says:

        Yup, very contradicting. I was convinced that is was Gleesen, being ginger and he does have that “Doctorish” look.

  16. avatar castellanspandrel says:

    Would be astonished if it was Ben Miller. Don’t see him as the Doctor and would be surprised if Steven Moffat did. But you never know!

    Won’t be Kinnear, either, if his family friend on Twitter is to be believed. Sounds like he’s heartily sick of hearing about the whole thing.

    • avatar TimeChaser says:

      I could see Ben Miller as a grumpy, spikey kind of Doctor, like Colin Baker and a bit of Hartnell mixed together. But of that’s not what they want, then he probably wouldn’t be asked or auditioned.

  17. avatar castellanspandrel says:

    Gleeson is another very interesting actor on the up. The problem is that a lot of the serious contenders being touted for the Doctor have a ccurrent areer trajectory, including films, with a variety of different roles to play. Of course any of us would jump at the chance to be the Doctor, given the opportunity – I’d be in my sleeping bag in Steven Moffat’s garden! – but from the perspective of a lot of these actors, it isn’t something they want to be involved in.

    They may not appreciate the fan aspect of it either – being asked questions about Doctor Who the whole time rather than any of the other interesting jobs they’ve done, having to sign things and be nice to kids, having to promote the series everywhere repeatedly, etc. It’s a full time, onerous job.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      Good point – In an interview Ben Daniels said he was a very private person who liked to go home from his work and shut the door on the outside world – which doesn’t suugest he’d be the sort of actor who’d like DW’s constant publicity machine! It’s a very different world to Law and Order or Cutting It.

  18. avatar castellanspandrel says:

    = current career trajectory

  19. avatar Lewis Seymour says:

    The BBC have now apparently issued a statement (rather quietly) denying that they have offered the role to Kinnear.

    One point – according to his “family friend” on Twitter, he’s sick of the rumours and wants them quashed. So why doesn’t his agent issue a formal press release? Getting someone to say this on Twitter isn’t going to convince anyone!

  20. avatar castellanspandrel says:

    He (RK) may also feel he’s being used as part of a casting smokescreen – diverting attention away from the real casting process. And who can blame him for feeling that way? It’s disrespectful to him if it’s true.

    • avatar Lewis Seymour says:

      If true, it certainly isn’t a very nice way to treat someone – would the BBC deliberately do this? It wouldn’t go down well with the acting fraternity, I would have thought. But still wonder, if it isn’t all true, why his agent doesn’t come out and say so clearly. That would surely end the speculation.

  21. avatar Lewis Seymour says:

    Checking out Curtis Brown – who represent Kinnear – this was posted four minutes ago (7.06pm) on their Twitter feed:

    Curtis Brown Actors ‏@CBGActors Dr Who…. No seriously…. Who? #whowillbethenewdoctor

  22. avatar castellanspandrel says:

    Maybe that’s as close as we’ll get to a denial, Inspector Lewis!


  23. Hrm, has anyone seen that movie trailer ABOUT TIME with DOMNHALL GLEESON AND BILL NIGHY in it?

    It’s about a young man who discovers he can TRAVEL IN TIME. AND THAT ALL THE MEN IN HIS FAMILY CAN DO THIS.

    interesting coinkydink mesez.

    O.O

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